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Jun 3 10 1:38 AM

QUOTE (aquose @ June 02, 2010 09:59 pm)
ok so i read the teaser chapter and im really confused Isis And Osiris are dark elders because they say
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We have declared Dee utlaga for his many failures.
but the which (who is good?) is working with them...... flamelssecret/sFun_explosive.gif

I think they are all good. That also depends on what you mean by good. Who are the good guys? Mr. Scott could pul a plot twist in the Warlock.
I agree it is strange that Zeph. is working with supposed bad guys. Maybe Isis and Osiris are "good".
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Jun 3 10 3:18 AM

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as we've seen sophie cry silver tears and gilgamesh mentioned at the end of the sorceress he saw a girl cry silver tears around the time of the fall.

So I wonder if Isis and Osiris are the original twins or at the very least if they are related to them in some way. i wonder if gold/silver auras are hereditary....

And I agree with Godsryche, I too believe they are dee's elder. Based on this bit



Wow Spacecadet what an awesome catch! I also thought of Sophie and Gilgamesh when Isis cried the silver tears. I also believe they are Dee's elders because he couldn't distinguish between male and female so this would make sense!

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Jun 3 10 1:58 PM

I re-read The Necromancer and found an interesting bit.

In the first chapter of The Warlock it was said that Isis and Osiris stepped out of a near-perfect copy of Danu Talis right?

In one of the chapters which Joan and Scatty were in, Scatty was thinking and said that her parents were in a Shadowrealm which is a copy of Danu Talis.

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Jun 3 10 3:57 PM

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Wow Spacecadet what an awesome catch! I also thought of Sophie and Gilgamesh when Isis cried the silver tears. I also believe they are Dee's elders because he couldn't distinguish between male and female so this would make sense!


I don't think it would make sense, unless Iris and Osiris both spoke at the exact same time in unison. Personally, I think the he/she master might be something with two heads that both talk at the same time.

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Jun 3 10 8:07 PM

Silvertwin, that would just be wierd and i dont think they are "Dark" because i just got a sense that they seem a little bit more carring or a little bit more emotional than a Dark Elder would.

It seems when ever we get to read a little bit about Dark Elders they all seem so full of evil and hatred, twords EVERYONE.

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Jun 3 10 8:12 PM

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Silvertwin, that would just be wierd and i dont think they are "Dark" because i just got a sense that they seem a little bit more carring or a little bit more emotional than a Dark Elder would.

It seems when ever we get to read a little bit about Dark Elders they all seem so full of evil and hatred, twords EVERYONE.

Well that's not strictly true - Bastet is a Dark Elder and she was almost in tears talking about her baby brother and his imprisonment in the Catacombs so they clearly don't hate EVERYONE

And please can you be a bit more careful with your tone when you post, it's fine to disagree with other people's ideas, in fact, we welcome it if you've got a valid point to be made.

But please be aware that when you write, the nuances in your words (the places you would smile, or wink in real life to show you aren't serious) are missing and your words could be interpreted as aggressive or mean. I'm sure that's not what you intended but please bear that in mind. We want everyone to feel safe and welcome and valid in here

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Jun 3 10 9:24 PM

This will be very interesting because aren't the twins the ones to fight for Danu talis? Now that they left the same time scatty joeann saint germain..ect. went to save danu talis what will happen??!?! And if Isis and Osiris are the twins of legend why are they both dark elders? Doesn't the prohecy say that one saves the world and the other destroys it? They probobly put aside their diffrences to awaken Mars which means that something really awful has happened!! ahhhhh!

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Jun 3 10 9:45 PM

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This will be very interesting because aren't the twins the ones to fight for Danu talis? Now that they left the same time scatty joeann saint germain..ect. went to save danu talis what will happen??!?! And if Isis and Osiris are the twins of legend why are they both dark elders? Doesn't the prohecy say that one saves the world and the other destroys it? They probobly put aside their diffrences to awaken Mars which means that something really awful has happened!! ahhhhh!

Well if you think about it the twins who fought on danu talis caused it to sink so that could be one interpretation of destroying the world. They destroyed the world of the elders, and the world of the humani was allowed to flourish after the sinking of danu talis so that could be seen as saving the world. So its possible that by fighting atop the pyramid the twins did both simultaneously.

The question is if Isis and Osiris are the original twins, why were they fighting in the past and now holding hands and working together. Obviously a lot of time passed, so maybe the reconciled if in fact they are the original twins, or maybe they werent really fighting each other it just looked like they were fighting to those below the pyramid. And does it actually ever say they were fighting each other or does it say they were fighting because that is a huge difference.

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I believe it just said fighting

QUOTE (Greekboy25 @ June 03, 2010 02:24 pm)
This will be very interesting because aren't the twins the ones to fight for Danu talis?  Now that they left the same time scatty joeann saint germain..ect. went to save danu talis what will happen??!?!  And if Isis and Osiris are the twins of legend why are they both dark elders?  Doesn't the prohecy say that one saves the world and the other destroys it?  They probobly put aside their diffrences to awaken Mars which means that something really awful has happened!! ahhhhh!


That was about the second twin of legends, not the original. Unless you believe in the time traveling theory, which states that the original twins are the second twins, which is possible. But that does leave the question why destroy Danu Talis?



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Jun 8 10 1:01 AM

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But that does leave the question why destroy Danu Talis?

What Spacecadet said before: If Danu Talis was not destroyed, then the Human race would not have been able to grow and flourish. The Elders would still be in control.

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Silvertwin, that would just be wierd and i dont think they are "Dark" because i just got a sense that they seem a little bit more carring or a little bit more emotional than a Dark Elder would.

It seems when ever we get to read a little bit about Dark Elders they all seem so full of evil and hatred, twords EVERYONE.

I never said anything about that, I just said that unless Iris and Osiris spoke in unison, it would be pretty easy to tell their voices apart.

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Jun 8 10 1:16 AM

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But that does leave the question why destroy Danu Talis?

What Spacecadet said before: If Danu Talis was not destroyed, then the Human race would not have been able to grow and flourish. The Elders would still be in control.


That further proves the time travel, because how else would they know about the future. Unless Marethyu told them. My brain hurts after playing the apprentice. flamelssecret/wall_.gif

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Jun 8 10 1:22 AM

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That further proves the time travel, because how else would they know about the future. Unless Marethyu told them. My brain hurts after playing the apprentice.

It is time travel. Marethyu brings everyone together to take them back to Danu Talis to be destroyed. Maybe while they're there the group convinces the original twins to destroy the island after they leave; tell them what it would be like without this event happening. Knowing Michael, he'll probably write their escape just before they die.
That's what I think will happen, anyway.

Wow, I just realized this post is totally off-topic. Sorry to the admins!!

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Jun 9 10 11:06 PM

Just reread last 5-6 chapters...
Unless I'm wrong, it says that "mars felt rather than saw their auras, and knew that these were no humani" Might just be me, but that sounds like they could be gold and silver, original twins, etc.

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Jun 10 10 1:49 AM

QUOTE (signormachievelli13 @ June 09, 2010 03:06 pm)
Just reread last 5-6 chapters...
Unless I'm wrong, it says that "mars felt rather than saw their auras, and knew that these were no humani"  Might just be me, but that sounds like they could be gold and silver, original twins, etc.

Or that they could be Elders, since they weren't Humani.

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Jun 13 10 2:44 PM

In the myhology Isis and Osiris are both egyptian gods. So are they the original twins? No, i don't think so. But on the other hand: Who says that the original twins had to be humani? The humani where created by prometheus's aura. And they (atleast Isis has a silver) the right color aura...

I'm struggeling at the point of them being scathach and aoife's parents because they are brother and sister.
It makes sence that they have come with the witch of Endor and because the left a copy of Danu Talis.

Dee's Elders... Possible. That cleares up why they said that they decleared him Ultaga.

Who is going to answer al our questions? The next book maybe...

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Jun 13 10 11:27 PM

Isis and Osiris aren't Mars' parents. Mars is the son of Juno and Jupiter.

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Jun 13 10 11:43 PM

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Isis and Osiris aren't Mars' parents. Mars is the son of Juno and Jupiter.

Isis and Osiris, in mythology, are the parents of Horus. Mars, as we know from Bastet, is her little brother, also known as Horus. That's my thought, and I'm sticking to it.

Maybe Isis and Osiris have alternate names, too.

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Jun 14 10 12:16 AM

QUOTE (Silvertwinn @ June 14, 2010 12:43 am)
QUOTE (caseyburns95 @ June 13, 2010 03:27 pm)
Isis and Osiris aren't Mars' parents. Mars is the son of Juno and Jupiter.

Isis and Osiris, in mythology, are the parents of Horus. Mars, as we know from Bastet, is her little brother, also known as Horus. That's my thought, and I'm sticking to it.

Maybe Isis and Osiris have alternate names, too.

I think you could be right there, certainly from what we know about Mars and Bastet having other names it'd be a logical link if Isis and Osiris did also. Any candidates spring to your mind?

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Jun 14 10 12:23 AM

Jupiter, Juno. Zeus, Hera.Probably a lot more...


And that would mean cronos is there dad.



That must be one family reunion. flamelssecret/hysterical.gif



Now back to serious.It would make sense that they could be his parents, because Isis cried when she saw mars imprisoned.

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