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Jun 2 10 11:22 AM

Would that be my theory of Yama?

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Jun 2 10 3:17 PM

Just had a thought... There is no way that Marethyu could be an elder. They can't even touch the Book of the Mage, remember Hekate when Nicholas showed it in front of her... She almost killed him for even pulling out those two pages.

The startling blue eyes and the hook have me confused... I am amazed that "he" has been working this whole plan out just to get the warriors back to Danu Talis... basically fate isn't an option only the will for the Hook Handed Man!

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Jun 2 10 3:24 PM

QUOTE (jacobs_bella @ June 02, 2010 03:17 pm)
Just had a thought... There is no way that Marethyu could be an elder. They can't even touch the Book of the Mage, remember Hekate when Nicholas showed it in front of her... She almost killed him for even pulling out those two pages.

The startling blue eyes and the hook have me confused... I am amazed that "he" has been working this whole plan out just to get the warriors back to Danu Talis... basically fate isn't an option only the will for the Hook Handed Man!

They never said that he touched the book of Abraham, only that he helped them read and understand it. He was the one that showed Perry and Nick how to make the immortality formula from helping them. Though if the theory that Josh is Marethyu, then it would make much more sense to your theory that he can't be an elder.

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Jun 2 10 3:36 PM

QUOTE (Rurounizakku @ June 02, 2010 03:24 pm)
QUOTE (jacobs_bella @ June 02, 2010 03:17 pm)
Just had a thought... There is no way that Marethyu could be an elder. They can't even touch the Book of the Mage, remember Hekate when Nicholas showed it in front of her... She almost killed him for even pulling out those two pages.

The startling blue eyes and the hook have me confused... I am amazed that "he" has been working this whole plan out just to get the warriors back to Danu Talis... basically fate isn't an option only the will for the Hook Handed Man!

They never said that he touched the book of Abraham, only that he helped them read and understand it. He was the one that showed Perry and Nick how to make the immortality formula from helping them. Though if the theory that Josh is Marethyu, then it would make much more sense to your theory that he can't be an elder.

I'm not sure I am following the Josh theory really...

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Jun 2 10 4:36 PM

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Marethyu is Yama! search him on Wiki! 100% sure thanks to
Also this link *LINK REMOVED which led me to Yama!
Check it out!
I will post more about Yama later.
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OK, so before this line of research gets completely out of hand (which is an unfortunate pun), let me confirm, definitively, that the hook-handed man is not Yama.

Yama is a fascinating character and I certainly looked at him and his sister for this series as I researched twins around the world.

But he is NOT Yama. I have kept reasonably close to the traditional descriptions of the ancient mythological characters. I would not change a physical description in such a dramatic way by removing a hand.

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Jun 2 10 5:06 PM

So this leaves to theories, at least that I know about it, from that forum left. One of them was that it was somebody that we haven't met yet, which makes sense. The other is that its Josh in the future. The majority of the theory is in the I finished reading the necromancer thread. I can't take credit for the theory though, I'll let them post it here if they want to.

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Jun 2 10 6:30 PM

It must be this theory then.

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QUOTE ( Indigo Spirit)
So... maybe we should look for gods of death from mythology in India?


First, kudos to Sparticle to find that out!
Sanskrit is also used in many of the Middle Eastern countries (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan...). India or anywhere else in the Middle East might be a good start. Good thinking, Indigo. 


Is this the theory that is correct.
When searching Mrtyu (death in sanskrit) the only deities that appear are Mara and Yama. flamelssecret/jawdrop.gif
Ahhhhhh!
Must find hook handed death deity!
Do we know if "Captain Hook" is a god?
I just searched through a list of all death deities and there are no hook handed ones. There were like 100 gods yet none were one handed or had a hook.
Chronos has something that looks like a hook that he holds in his hand.
I think I have concluded that Marethyu is not a god, maybe.
Marethyu=tyr ?
Marethyu=Yama No
Marethyu=Josh?
Marethyu=non deity?
I give up Michael has made it too hard!
Back to eye color theory!
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Was whoever is Marethyu ever refereed to as Marethyu or Mrtyu? Or did you just give that name to him?

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Jun 2 10 8:34 PM

Michael actually had this to say previously in the Hook handed man thread...

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Can I say that its always a mistake to mock a hook-handed man - and remember, never shake hands with them!

And, by the way, the correct name has been guessed on the forum (not necessarily in this thread ... but somewhere!


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http://flamelssecret.9.forumer.com/index.p...findpost&p=8972

So at least someone has guessed it right on this forum previous to March 09. Not that I know who it is...Others would know better than me, but in my memory I have not heard of Josh being theorized as the hook handed man. But who knows?

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Jun 2 10 9:00 PM

And a quick perusal of search reveals that no one has thrown out the name "Marethyu" during that time. Shocking, I know.

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Jun 2 10 9:03 PM

Dang it.



At least it got turned down by the actual author of the series. But if he didn't stop us we would probably have the new alternative plot worked out.

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Jun 2 10 10:29 PM

i belive that marethyu is as he sas he is Death he is much different than i expected if youve read demonata then you no what death is i just finished the necromancer today i really wanted to strain the reading when i got it last tuseday i did not even read it until thursday and the monday and finshed today as i already stated i like how marethu does not know everything as skatty said the 13 laygates they went through i belive were different possible fuures or maby just different times i know this is all spread apart oh wll ha ha death is only as old as the first person who died i belive and who knows who that was i bet we will meet him soon sorry i made it this long again please comment oh and he has silver eyes maby silver aura maby original twin idk please comment again flamelssecret/vamp.gif flamelssecret/evillaugh smiley.gif hahahahahahahah

i ment to make it blue i know i dont really have to say this haha i also didnt like the way he said maby some day when skatty asked him how he knew something about them he is death that means he knows the death of skatty

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Jun 3 10 12:40 AM

Possibilities: Nauda, Tyr, Josh, Fisher King, Kamos, Mesgera, Paedur and unknown.

Somebody has the right name and it might be one of these.
We must search this forum for the right name. Michael says somebody on the forum has the right name.
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Jun 3 10 12:41 AM

QUOTE (@(•L•)@ @ June 02, 2010 05:40 pm)
Possibilities: Nauda, Tyr, Josh, Fisher King, Kamos, Mesgera, Paedur and unknown.

Somebody has the right name and it might be one of these.
We must search this forum for the right name. Michael says somebody on the forum has the right name.
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How long ago did he say that or was it just like today?

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Jun 3 10 12:46 AM

QUOTE (mrprecise @ June 03, 2010 12:41 am)
QUOTE (@(•L•)@ @ June 02, 2010 05:40 pm)
Possibilities: Nauda, Tyr, Josh, Fisher King, Kamos, Mesgera, Paedur and unknown.

Somebody has the right name and it might be one of these.
We must search this forum for the right name. Michael says somebody on the forum has the right name.
@(•L•)@

How long ago did he say that or was it just like today?

It was yesterday I believe, though I may be wrong, so if its down to Nauda, Tyr, Josh, Fisher King, Kamos, Mesgera, Paedur and unknown. I'm glad to see that Captain Hook has been eliminated from the list of possible theories. xD Josh I know about, but now its on to do some research on the others.

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Jun 3 10 12:50 AM

QUOTE (mrprecise @ June 02, 2010 09:11 pm)
QUOTE (@(•L•)@ @ June 02, 2010 05:40 pm)
Possibilities: Nauda, Tyr, Josh, Fisher King, Kamos, Mesgera, Paedur and unknown.

Somebody has the right name and it might be one of these.
We must search this forum for the right name. Michael says somebody on the forum has the right name.
@(•L•)@

How long ago did he say that or was it just like today?

This is a new list. I have done a search on the forum for other people's past theories. As Michael said, one of the theories is correct.
@(•L•)@

I would be surprised if one of these isn't right. But then again I wouldn't, because I've reasearched every single death god and none are Marethyu or hook handed.

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I wish Michael could give us a clue, or maybe a question to lead us in a certain direction.
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Jun 3 10 1:02 AM

QUOTE (@(•L•)@ @ June 03, 2010 12:50 am)
QUOTE (mrprecise @ June 02, 2010 09:11 pm)
QUOTE (@(•L•)@ @ June 02, 2010 05:40 pm)
Possibilities: Nauda, Tyr, Josh, Fisher King, Kamos, Mesgera, Paedur and unknown.

Somebody has the right name and it might be one of these.
We must search this forum for the right name. Michael says somebody on the forum has the right name.
@(•L•)@

How long ago did he say that or was it just like today?

This is a new list. I have done a search on the forum for other people's past theories. As Michael said, one of the theories is correct.
@(•L•)@

I would be surprised if one of these isn't right. But then again I wouldn't, because I've reasearched every single death god and none are Marethyu or hook handed.

EDIT

I wish Michael could give us a clue, or maybe a question to lead us in a certain direction.
@(•L•)@

Well if he gave us a hint, then we wouldn't have to much to talk about for a year. At least not on this, and so far he gave us a hint that narrowed it down to 8 possibilities after he told us that Yama wasn't Marethyu.

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Jun 3 10 1:20 AM

This is the theory I posted in the Necromance thread, thought I'd post it here too:

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Adding on to my previous theory:

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I have this Theory about Marethyu that just came to me. So I was thinking due to the multiple references of how they have met him before, but haven't(Marethyu says that if they had met before they would've remembered the hook) when Joan, Scatty, and the others were with him in his Shadowrealm. That he is someone that they know, sent back in time, achieved immortality, and became Marethyu as he is Today. I personally have a feeling that it might be Josh, as he has blue eyes(which other characters have blue eyes again?Can't remember), and that he is The Necromancer which has to do with death. Also I have a theory for why he has the hook, so I was thinking that in the Warlock Sophie and possibly the Flamels get sent back too by Chronos, and then Josh has a change of heart and wants to follow. But, Chronos refuses, and Josh bargains with him, and the price of the trip back in time was his hand.


So what if the fighting by the original twins that caused Danu Talis to sink was actuattly the confrontation of Sophie and Josh, and that could be what Tammuz means when he said that the Marethyu caused the island to sink.

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Jun 3 10 1:52 AM

Okay now I am so confused. Does Marethyu have blue or black eyes? Everyone is saying different things! flamelssecret/idk.gif flamelssecret/wall_.gif
Does anyone else have an eye color theory? Michael has already said people with the same color eye are related in some way.
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Also, does anyone have evidence that would cross out any of these Marethyu possibilities?
Nauda, Tyr, Josh, Fisher King, Kamos, Mesgera, Paedur and unknown.

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Jun 3 10 1:57 AM

QUOTE (@(•L•)@ @ June 03, 2010 01:52 am)
Okay now I am so confused. Does Marethyu have blue or black eyes? Everyone is saying different things! flamelssecret/idk.gif  flamelssecret/wall_.gif
Does anyone else have an eye color theory? Michael has already said people with the same color eye are related in some way.
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Also, does anyone have evidence that would cross out any of these Marethyu possibilities?
Nauda, Tyr, Josh, Fisher King, Kamos, Mesgera, Paedur and unknown.

I believe someone in the I've finished the necromancer posted the quote from the book that described his eyes. If I remember correctly, he had blue eyes, and the mother of all gods had black eyes.

edit: the quote isn't in the thread, I just checked, but I'm sure that its been posted at one point or another.

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