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So we now have a name to call the hook handed man, but that is just the merest tip of the mystery surrounding this character! Certainly Scathach doesn't appear to be happy to see him..what are your thoughts about this secretive character?
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Jun 1 10 1:27 PM

Probably the most interesting new character. We've been given just a hint of info about him:
His name, Marethyu, and it's meaning of "death" in the Language of Danu Tallis.

He was on the Island, and Tammuz doesn't like him - but also seemed to survive the fall, as he was around to teach Alchemy to Flamel (and tell him his destiny laid in the prophecy), to help Germain learn Fire Mastery (which was to help him survive for later), has told Perenelle her fortune and that of the world (see Warlock preview) and sworn her to secrecy about it, as well as tell Dee HIS fortune, and that it laid in the Swords.

We know he's orchestrating big things - the massive effort to gather the Warriors to fight with the Original Twins on Danu Talis to cause the fall - a sentance that alone shatters the world, as we'd been told that the Island fell from the battle between Sun and Moon (Dagon even was there to see it...).
The fact that they need warriors they can trust, and seem to be working together to ensure the fall is huge.

But beyond that whole plot - which involved the creation of Shadowrealms, centuries of planning, and carefully sequenced time travel - that doesn't even seem to be the limit of his machinations.

We still don't know if he's Elder, Immortal, or something else entirely (although Sophie through the Witch knows both his name "and WHAT he is..." [The Magician].)

And Josh's flashback of him and a red haired warrior fighitng Coatlcue is also significant, but not sure how.

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Jun 1 10 1:53 PM

So I googled Marethyu and the only reference that came up was the Handbuch der Awestasprache, which appears to be an old German dictionary of some kind. I have no idea what it says or if it even means anything. If we have any German members can you guys help us please?

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Jun 1 10 4:57 PM

QUOTE (Fuzzbinn @ June 01, 2010 02:27 pm)
Probably the most interesting new character. We've been given just a hint of info about him:
His name, Marethyu, and it's meaning of "death" in the Language of Danu Tallis.

He was on the Island, and Tammuz doesn't like him - but also seemed to survive the fall, as he was around to teach Alchemy to Flamel (and tell him his destiny laid in the prophecy), to help Germain learn Fire Mastery (which was to help him survive for later), has told Perenelle her fortune and that of the world (see Warlock preview) and sworn her to secrecy about it, as well as tell Dee HIS fortune, and that it laid in the Swords.

We know he's orchestrating big things - the massive effort to gather the Warriors to fight with the Original Twins on Danu Talis to cause the fall - a sentance that alone shatters the world, as we'd been told that the Island fell from the battle between Sun and Moon (Dagon even was there to see it...).
The fact that they need warriors they can trust, and seem to be working together to ensure the fall is huge.

But beyond that whole plot - which involved the creation of Shadowrealms, centuries of planning, and carefully sequenced time travel - that doesn't even seem to be the limit of his machinations.

We still don't know if he's Elder, Immortal, or something else entirely (although Sophie through the Witch knows both his name "and WHAT he is..." [The Magician].)

And Josh's flashback of him and a red haired warrior fighitng Coatlcue is also significant, but not sure how.

yeah i think that maybe this guy is the real bad guy of the serious, i think that he brought them back in time to help the twins fight agains the mother of the gods.

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Jun 1 10 7:33 PM

What I don't get is how when they all go back in time that the timeline keeps going normally and seperatly for present and past and so they don't immediatly come back to regular time.

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Jun 1 10 7:52 PM

I'm not sure either how the time thing works, but if the past is altered in anyway, it most definitely will affect the future. I was blown away in how he orchestrated this whole thing. Not only is he shaping the future of the Elders and the Humani, but he has practically facilitated the present plot with Dee and those swords and the Flamels and the Twins. I hope Sophie says what he is because Germain didn't know. I don't know if he could be a bad guy, I mean he could be trying to takeover for himself by using everyone else, but rule nothing out, but he is trying to help the Original Twins sink the island to bring down the Elders, for the humani to rise.

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Jun 1 10 8:01 PM

Somewhere in the Necromancer Nicholas said the man that sold him The Codex had startling blue eyes. And if I'm not mistaken Marethyu has startling blue eyes.


My theory is he is extremely powerful. And somehow his journeys led him to the Codex. Then he tried one of the other immortality spells in the book.Somehow saw through the prophecy, so he knew Nicholas was the one to train the mortal.


Probably not likely, but you can never tell with an author like Michael Scott...

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Jun 1 10 8:39 PM

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The man with startling blue eyes did not have a hook like marethyu. I believe Osiris gave Nick the Codex, because Osiris has "startling blue eyes" flamelssecret/spoilerwarning-2.gif

He made a world, he could probably make a new hand. Than make it dissapear.

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Jun 1 10 8:39 PM

It was mentioned in the Magician I believe that a hook handed man, with blue eyes helped the Alchemyst decipher the Codex and the immortality formula. And Marethyu said he has met with Flamel in the past in terms of the Codex. I think that was mentioned in the conversation between Marethyu and Germain.

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Jun 1 10 8:44 PM

QUOTE (@(•L•)@ @ June 01, 2010 08:21 pm)
The man with startling blue eyes did not have a hook like marethyu. I believe Osiris gave Nick the Codex, because Osiris has "startling blue eyes"  flamelssecret/spoilerwarning-2.gif

Why do you think Osiris would give Nick the Codex? flamelssecret/spoilerwarning-2.gif Doesn't it say in the preview of The Warlock that Isis and Osiris declared the utlaga on Dee? Why would they want Dee dead for failing to capture Nick and retrieve the Codex if Osiris had it to start with?

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Jun 1 10 9:41 PM

I typed Marethyu into three different search engines and found nothing. I also tried an anagram solver, and that got no results either. I am confused. flamelssecret/wall_.gif

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Jun 1 10 11:09 PM

Marethyu is Yama! search him on Wiki! 100% sure thanks to
Also this link *LINK REMOVED which led me to Yama!
Check it out!
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Jun 1 10 11:38 PM

QUOTE (@(•L•)@ @ June 01, 2010 04:09 pm)
Marethyu is Yama! search him on Wiki! 100% sure thanks to
Also this link *LINK REMOVED which led me to Yama!
Check it out!
I will post more about Yama later.
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I did a quick wiki on him, and he happens to steal life by a rope in his left hand.

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Jun 1 10 11:53 PM

QUOTE (The Who @ June 01, 2010 08:08 pm)
QUOTE (@(•L•)@ @ June 01, 2010 04:09 pm)
Marethyu is Yama! search him on Wiki! 100% sure thanks to
Also this link *LINK REMOVED which led me to Yama!
Check it out!
I will post more about Yama later.
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I did a quick wiki on him, and he happens to steal life by a rope in his left hand.

Maybe his left hand was cut off for punishment for killing people. Or maybe it was because of Chronos. Oh well ill search for a death deity with a hook though I doubt there is.

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Jun 1 10 11:58 PM

QUOTE (@(•L•)@ @ June 01, 2010 04:53 pm)
QUOTE (The Who @ June 01, 2010 08:08 pm)
QUOTE (@(•L•)@ @ June 01, 2010 04:09 pm)
Marethyu is Yama! search him on Wiki! 100% sure thanks to
Also this link *LINK REMOVED which led me to Yama!
Check it out!
I will post more about Yama later.
Thanks to Sparticle for sanskrit stuff!
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I did a quick wiki on him, and he happens to steal life by a rope in his left hand.

Maybe his left hand was cut off for punishment for killing people. Or maybe it was because of Chronos. Oh well ill search for a death deity with a hook though I doubt there is.

Maybe he gave Chronos his rope and hand in order to line up the gates so they could go back to sink Danu Talis.


@mrprecise The twins of legend prehaps...

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Jun 2 10 12:13 AM

Whoa! Yama and Yami, twins, probably both blue eyes, like Sophie and Josh. Original twins of legend? Probably not, because it does not fit the prophecy (yama and yami are not mortal). Also the original twins were probably Sun and Moon not death. I hope my theory is correct, but I doubt it.

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Jun 2 10 12:19 AM

How do you know they didn't become that after they destroyed Danu Talis, since they killed so many elders and next generation.

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Jun 2 10 3:51 AM

Mr. Scott, why do you always have to use the most obscure charachters? do you like to drive us insane? Have you perhaps invested in an asylum?

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Jun 2 10 6:10 AM

QUOTE (skynite @ June 02, 2010 03:51 am)
Mr. Scott, why do you always have to use the most obscure charachters? do you like to drive us insane? Have you perhaps invested in an asylum?

What you want me to make it easy for you! One on of the other threads (and I honestly don't remember which one - maybe the I've finished the Necromancer thread...) there is a correct interpretation of the hook-handed man's name.

I'm glad you're all enjoying it.
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