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The old spider, trapped on Alcatraz with Perenelle these old aquaintances team up to escape the Island and defeat the Sphinx.. but whose side is the spider really on?
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Aug 20 09 3:15 AM

Woah, somebody did a major cleaning job! Excellent work!

I think Areop-enap was, in the beginning, acting for herself. But that may change with her newest meeting with Perry.

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Aug 20 09 4:34 AM

On the podcasts, they say Arop-anop. Is it that, or my way: Air-ee-op Ee-nap?

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Aug 20 09 4:57 AM

QUOTE (silvertouch @ August 20, 2009 04:34 am)
On the podcasts, they say Arop-anop. Is it that, or my way: Air-ee-op Ee-nap?

I've heard it Arop-eenap. That's how I pronounce it XD

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Aug 20 09 8:26 AM

QUOTE (silvertouch @ August 20, 2009 04:34 am)
On the podcasts, they say Arop-anop. Is it that, or my way: Air-ee-op Ee-nap?

i pronounce it in a similar fashon.

I think the Old Spider fights for her own in recent centuries. like Hekate, she was one of the few Elders who fought for the Humani race and a few who claim to have been there when the Codex was transcibed. basing on her history, I'm inclined to think that she will pick the same side she chose in the past. if she was able to set aside her fued w/ the sorceress then i see it as a very good omen.

I don't know why, I know it was said that she is an Elder, but when I think of Archons I also conect they w/ Areop-enap. meybe because she looks more primitive that other elders we've seen. flamelssecret/idk.gif

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Aug 20 09 12:21 PM

I pronounce it on the podcast they why it is spoken in the audiobooks... Nothings to say that is correct! That's just how the readers say it, so that's how I say it.

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Aug 20 09 7:00 PM

So I was looking on godchecker and saw the legend of Areop-Enap. Something about a giant clam...

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Aug 22 09 10:41 AM

QUOTE (silvertouch @ August 20, 2009 07:00 pm)
So I was looking on godchecker and saw the legend of Areop-Enap. Something about a giant clam...

what does she have to do w/ clams?

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Aug 22 09 8:12 PM

Areop-Enap comes from the Nauru folklore (a small island in the Pacific). They myth about the creation of Earth was that at the beginning of creation only two things existed, Areop-Enap and the sea. While hunting it found an enormous clam, before she can sting it, the clam shallow her completely. Inside, Areop-Enap found a snail, who put it under her arm and sleep for three days, passing some of her power to the snail. When awakes it found a larger snail and repeat the same, after that it order the small snail to climb up and prise the calm open. As the snail moves it left behind a fluorescent trail, at the light of it Areop-Enap see a worm, ignoring the snail it places a strength spell upon the worm and persuade it to open the clam.

As trying open the clam, the worm left a sea of sweat underneath it, the salty water killed the clam and open. Areop-Enap convert the lower shell in the Earth and the upper shell into Sky. Then the smaller snail became the Moon and the larger one became the Sun. The Old Spider create islands from the clam's meat, and when turn to see the worm, it had drowned in its own sweat, Areop-Enap wrapped it in a cocoon and turned it into the Milky Way.

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Sep 22 09 4:38 AM

I think shes good becuase she helped perenelle escape

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Oct 4 09 10:56 PM

There are many storys with Aerop Enop, especially in African Myths. I believe she fights for good.

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Oct 5 09 5:10 PM

QUOTE (Alchemyst11 @ October 04, 2009 10:56 pm)
There are many storys with Aerop Enop, especially in African Myths. I believe she fights for good.

If I remember correctly ... The Spider isn't about taking sides, but had been known to fight for humani when it came down to the wire.

So I guess technically that is fighting for "good" ... haha

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Oct 5 09 8:37 PM

QUOTE (jacobs_bella @ October 05, 2009 05:10 pm)
QUOTE (Alchemyst11 @ October 04, 2009 10:56 pm)
There are many storys with Aerop Enop, especially in African Myths. I believe she fights for good.

If I remember correctly ... The Spider isn't about taking sides, but had been known to fight for humani when it came down to the wire.

So I guess technically that is fighting for "good" ... haha

Yes... "good" is the proper way to write that word... flamelssecret/hysterical.gif

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Oct 5 09 10:52 PM

I agree

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Oct 27 09 11:40 PM

I always that Areop-Enap was a male.....well I feel bad for he/she, getting attacked by all those poison flies.

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Nov 3 09 7:14 AM

I'm rereading book 3 now and I find it interesting that the Dark Elders refer only to the Old Spider as It and in the Magician, I don't ever remember Perry specificaly mention its gender. I'll look futher into this when i've progressed deeper into the book, but at the moment it leads me to think that the Elder is asexual.

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Nov 16 09 1:47 AM

Now, this quote leads me to a whole slew of questions..

QUOTE (The Magician)
"No," Areop-Enap said. "The individual words are powerful, it is true, but Dee set them up in the particular pattern that kept me trapped in the cell.
Every time I tried to escape, it was as if I ran into a solid wall. I've seen that pattern before, but it was in the days before the Fall of Danu Talis. In fact, now that I think of it, the last time I saw that pattern was before we had even created the island continent and dragged it up from the ocean floor. Someone instructed Dee; someone knew how to create these magical Wards, someone who'd seen them."


Areop helped create Danu Talis? Who helped the spider do that? Who used them on Danu? Who gave them to Dee?

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Nov 16 09 3:35 AM

i believe the Spider also said that Danu Talis was raised by the Great Elders, i still have to look for the exact quote though

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Jan 4 10 10:36 PM

So then why would Areop-Enap imply that it was there and helped raise Danu Talis if it wasn't a Great Elder? I know that one of the immortal humans said that all of the Great Elders were killed or driven into the Shadowrealms, but do we know if Areop-Enap is one of them?

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Jan 4 10 11:08 PM

Well A-E does say that she is not one of the great elders in a conversation with Perry. Also another thing we learn from the Magician is that Bastet was one of the Original Elders or Ruling Elders on Danu Talis though it never says that she is a great elder either. Maybe there is some descrepency between those titles of power that is not directly evident by their age.

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Jan 5 10 4:41 AM

This is just my flamelssecret/twocents.gif, but I've always thought of the Great Elders as the few "head" elders, with the greatest power and most authority. I don't think I would consider Bastet a great elder just because she was one of the ruling elders on DT. Whether it's because they have the most power like I said before or something else...

If we want to continue this discussion, might I suggest moving it to a more appropriate thread.

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